As we’ve discussed, I’ve decided to try dating by joining an online dating site. And I’m learning a TON. About life and boys and even myself. Go figure.
But one issue that’s come up is the little phrase “serial dater”. I have been super clear with the men that I’m communicating with that I am not “that kind of girl”. (I’m not sure what kind of girl I thought that was, but I was certain I was not it.)
Until I looked up the definition of serial dating:
One who engages in the process of systematically dating an obscene amount people in a short span of time. –UrbanDictionary.com
I gasped. That was me!!!
Okay, not an OBSCENE amount of people, but (at the time of this writing), five first dates in three weeks is obscene if you look at the number of first dates I’ve had in my life (five pre-marriage TOTAL).
But I’ve come to realize something. I realized that this is how I am going to handle this whole dating-total-strangers thing (and it’s not for everyone).
You see, with Mr. Good Man, we emailed and IM’d and called and FaceTime’d and texted for five months before we met. In other words, I totally loved the guy before our first date. Umm, yeah. That’s probably not duplicatable. Or necessarily recommended.
So, in an effort to protect my heart and the hearts of every man I communicate with, I’ve developed a bit of a system. (That I have dating system should shock no one.)
Pre-Step one: my profile has a statement that makes it uber clear that Jesus is my highest priority and that he will be my future husband’s highest priority. If I could have it flashing in neon, I would. This doesn’t keep all the creepers away, but I’m hoping it separates a bit of the wheat from the chaff.
Step one: they must initiate contact with me. I may be a quote-unquote serial dater, but I’m an old-fashioned serial dater.
Step two: if all they do is send a wink or smile or like a picture or favorite me or what-have-you, I do not respond. They must write me something. And it HAS to be kind and respectful. Bonus if it’s funny.
Step three: we email a bit. If my phone number is asked for or a date is requested in the first day or two, I say simply, ‘not yet’. How they respond is key because my desire for slowness and to have my wishes understood and heeded is paramount.
Step four: I ask two important questions. One, what are your thoughts on this whole online dating thing/communicating with more than one person at a time? And two, what does Jesus mean to you?
Step five: I assess their responses, and I write them back with how I’d answer those two questions.
(My responses, in case you’re curious:
My thoughts on the online dating thing, just for full disclosure. I had one boyfriend before my husband, then dated my husband for four years, and was married for just under nineteen years. I have been divorced for two years and I have just in the past few months considered dating. I have been on just a few first dates in the past two months, and none before that for 23 years. I’m a dating novice.
One thing I learned through my very difficult marriage is not to settle. And though I have no intention of being what I hear people call a “serial dater” and I wouldn’t be a game-player even if I knew how to be, I am currently communicating a little bit with a few men at the same time right now and may even go out with a few around the same time as well, as I guess I figured that’s what this is all about.
But I wouldn’t drag something out if I didn’t feel chemistry, I wouldn’t seriously date more than one man at a time, and I will always be honest with each man where things are.
My take on who Jesus is… I accepted Christ as my personal Savior when I was fifteen and I am trying to live a life that brings me closer to him. He is my closest friend, he is who I call to for help and guidance, he is who I want to become more like. I spend time with him every morning through prayer and journaling and reading Scripture. I attend church weekly. When I write and speak, I try to point the women I’m talking with to Jesus. And the highest priority for my choice of a future husband will be that he knows and loves Jesus and has a growing relationship with him.)
Step six: if we’re both okay with how the other responded to those couple things, I’ll typically ask if they still want my phone number, and then we move to texting and a call or two.
Step seven: if all of this is going well, I’ll ask them if they still want to meet me, and then we’ll set a date.
(You’d think this would take FOREVER. It doesn’t. This takes about five days to two weeks, depending on how often the man is able to communicate. And this may seem really quick to some of you – the opposite of slowness, which I get. But why drag things out at the beginning? I now realize I can tell pretty quickly if there will be a connection with someone, and if there isn’t, let’s both move on. So the beginning is somewhat quick in the first-impressions stage; but then we’d move slowly beyond this point.)
Step eight: we meet. This is fun and a little bit scary but not as scary as I thought it would be. And I’m even a shy introvert whose idea of a good time is watching Alias on Netflix while sipping tea. (Party animal that I am.)
*Actual date tips:
Choose someplace public.
Choose someplace in between.
Do not get picked up by THIS STRANGER; drive there yourself.
Tell someone the following details ahead of time: who you’re meeting (name and phone number), where you’re meeting, when you’re meeting, and plan to contact this person when you’re safely home.
Bonus tip: A good male friend of mine said that upon first sight, you really should immediately think “oh wow”, not “oh boy”, (which I’ll touch on below).
Step nine: This is now the day-after the first date. I spend time being contemplative and prayerful because I take this search of mine super seriously. And I’ve come up with a philosophy with the help of two male friends who gave me some advice after one of the first dates left me a bit confused. I had shared that though my date was a very kind and good man, I wasn’t attracted to him and didn’t feel any chemistry, so I was wondering whether to go on a second date for open-mindedness’ sake (even saying, “So, even though I don’t want to see him again, should I just push through and see him again?” Yeah, I know. I’m a nut.)
Their responses:
“No attraction.” Really? Whether or not you have set the bar too high, I question the emotional wisdom of seeking to spend time with someone to whom you are not attracted. You would then have to “work” on learning how to be attracted to someone you are not attracted to. As for the bar being set too high…as a Christ follower, you do just that. Set the bar as high as the cross. As a woman who has suffered much, do not settle. Be humble in your endeavors to seek love, but do not settle if your “eyes,” heart and mind are not one. –male counselor
If you truly knew your worth as a woman, you wouldn’t go on a second date with a man you weren’t excited about in all ways. –guy friend
So basically, I’m allowed to decide what I’m looking for in a man, what’s important to me (after godly, of course). Which means, if I want ______________ and _______________ and _______________, I can look for those things.
Marriage is a big deal. My first marriage was hard and broke me. I would rather be alone than in something boring or not right or lonely or painful or simply parallel. I won’t get married again for just eh.
So, as long as I’m prayerful and willing to possibly be on my own longer (or forever) if I don’t find those things, it’s my choice and my life.
In other words, if you’re walking closely with Christ, you can trust your judgment. You are your very own expert, according to my awesome pastor. And Scripture says that we’ve been given a sound mind and that we have the mind of Christ.
Step ten: If I want to see the man again, and he asks me out again, I will go out again. But if I don’t want to see the man again, I will let him know by the end of the day after our first date. Hearts will be hurt through this process, I’m sure, but I promised myself I will not drag something out or lead someone on.
So, I don’t think I’m a serial dater; I’m just doing this the best I know how, having never done anything like this at all before in my life. And you’ve got to know that every step of the way, I am praying for clarity and discernment. I do not take this lightly. And if you’re out there too, it might be helpful to come up with a few standards of your own to help you navigate this craziness. Because trust me, it’s crazy.
But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. –Matthew 6:33–
If this post encouraged you, you would benefit from “Unraveling: Hanging onto Faith through the End of a Christian Marriage”, found here or “Living through Divorce as a Christian Woman”, found here.
I bet it feels good to have a strategy! Best wishes –
Elizabeth, I love how you have thought everything out so carefully. Jumping back into the “dating world” is all kinds of scary but it can also be exciting too. I personally haven’t went on one date since I’ve been signed up for online dating and it’s been well over a year!!!!!…..I’ve tried to steer away from the “I’m too old, I’m too fat, I have too high of standards so no one is interested” way of thinking and instead ask for discernment, patience and daily guidance from God. You’re a wonderful role model and inspiration for all of us divorced ladies out there! Thank you.
As always I just love your open honest blogs…im sure like me so many of us can relate. Thankyou!
Me I’m too scared to do online dating. It’s so easy for people to lie online about who they are.
Good job Elisabeth! My experience was your first way with “mr good man”….we talked for 6 weeks before meeting and we hit it off, so I guess I really didn’t think what would have happened if we didn’t….yes heartbreak, but God was in control of my life and blessed my socks off…..and another thing you forgot to mention, especially if your dad is an ex cop like mine, background checks are a good thing 🙂 My dad was so cute to ask before we had our first date if he could do this. It was just one more way I could see if he was genuine, because we had talked ALOT and the subject of his criminal behavior (or lack of) was one topic we discussed. I agree with the not stringing them along if there isn’t chemistry there, I guess I never had to do that because I wasn’t on there more than a week before I met my now husband. God knows everyone of His kids, how we operate, and our personalities and if you let Him be the captain of your dating boat and you listen, He will steer you in the right direction every time….if it takes a week, a year or longer….listening to Him and to your heart is the key!! Blessings your way and I pray that He blesses your socks off too 🙂
I enjoy reading your adventures and learning more about dating as a Christian in 2014 (compared to my late 1980s experiences). Your process is detailed!
Here is my only concern. When I met my future husband in 1987, I disliked him. A lot! I thought he had a huge ego and talked about himself too much. We shared mutual friends so we were forced to see each other. Also, a lot!
After almost a year, I got to know the real man who is my husband. He is generous, affectionate, a super hard worker and a man who loves The Lord. A lot! He was also shy around women and talking “too much” was his single-guy nerves at work.
Please keep your logical process. It is good and it keeps the “players” away. But I pray God will override your process when
I enjoy reading your adventures and learning more about dating as a Christian in 2014 (compared to my late 1980s experiences). Your process is detailed!
Here is my only concern. When I met my future husband in 1987, I disliked him. A lot! I thought he had a huge ego and talked about himself too much. We shared mutual friends so we were forced to see each other. Also, a lot!
After almost a year, I got to know the real man who is my husband. He is generous, affectionate, a super hard worker and a man who loves The Lord. A lot! He was also shy around women and talking “too much” was his single-guy nerves at work.
Please keep your logical process. It is good and it keeps the “players” away. But I pray God will override your process when the right man comes along. Some of the great ones have to grow on you! 🙂
I love your honesty and the intentional way you’re approaching online dating Elizabeth. But I also agree with Linda, and after my first meeting with my (now) husband he ticked lots of boxes, but “chemistry” wasn’t something that was high on my list. I didn’t go “WOW”. In fact, I had very deliberately asked God during my “getting ready to date again” hiatus, to “save me” from the intensely anxiety-provoking experience of “falling in love” with someone too fast. I’d tripped over that issue before and I was determined that in trusting God it would be fine not to have that over-the-top experience again. The chemistry and the falling-in-love grew at just the right pace for me over time and that’s how I knew this man was for me. So my first impressions of my husband were that he was a good, good man, kind, intelligent, loved the Lord, very knowledgeable about God’s Word, affirming, and had the most beautiful smile and laugh. I guess some would say that’s “chemistry” but not what my past experience had been.
So if I could say anything, it would be to take your men friends’ advice with caution (ask them what they mean by chemistry, attraction, etc), understanding that quite probably what first attracts a man is different to what first attracts a woman. Don’t discount the good, kind man. There’s every chance that he will grow on you!
Thank you for all your honesty! I have a fear which I’m not sure how to handle. My stbx is the one that lead me to Jesus. He turned out to know a lot about God and the Bible but didn’t show it in actions. He used it to manipulate and control me. So I know I want a man that follow’s God but at the same time that scares me as how on earth would I know it was genuine? Even now my stbx quotes the Bible sends me blessings tells my sons he’s praying for them all the while being nasty and vindictive to me.
San, you said it yourself….words not actions. If you date someone long enough, with your now wisdom and experience and ask God to give you discernment, then the truth will surface…good or bad. You have much to be thankful for, despite the turmoil of what is happening now in your life….your salvation and your children. God leads us down roads, despite our choices, to do what He wants to accomplish and He wanted you to be one of His kids! Trust God, listen to your gut and don’t ignore the red flags that we all did in our young, inexperienced life with our previous choice of our husbands. God will not lead you down a path of destruction….trust Him through it all.
Thank you Lori!
So I’m dipping my toe and part of my foot in on line shopping, ah ER dating after 33 years. My friend in Massachusetts is afraid that because I have lived in a small town rural area, university town for 20 years, guys will see my pic (not posted yet) walk around to businesses and find out around town who I am. Scary. I can change my location to the next town but it’s close enough to pop up for this town. Do I make a virtual move and say I live in Big D so that I may miss my local gossip or stalkers? What do y’all think?